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"I came up to Will Wright after the panel and I asked him this question. Is this urge to dominate these fictional systems just human nature, or is it something we've learned? Have years of 8-bit humiliation at the hands of games designers turned us into this kind of gamer, or is this just how the third chimpanzee is wired to behave?" Lots of good stuff here about domination vs understanding, mastery, learning, and the sterile utopias we so often turn systems into.