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	<title>Comments on: Playing Together &#8211; my talk from NLGD and Develop &#8211; now online</title>
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	<description>a weblog by Tom Armitage</description>
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		<title>By: Emmet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom. I think there&#039;s an interesting line of thought that is tangental to the Flickr and Nike+ stuff, about how play and online stuff are both leaking into real life -- the things that you would have normally have done anyway (taking snaps, exercising) are somehow infused with an added element of fun or specialness by being part of a wider &quot;game&quot;. Perhaps that&#039;s where the meeting point is going to be?

I&#039;ve sort of felt that the ARG type stuff held more promise than it has actually managed to deliver so far, but I also think that if these activites can be less explicitly about playing a game and more about low-barrier ways of turning everyday proceedings into fun... then something really interesting can happen. And I wouldn&#039;t normally say we should wait for hardware to enable things like that to happen, but in this case it seems true (the Nike pedometer thing, cheap digital cameras).

Incidentally, I like the format you&#039;ve used to present the slides and notes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom. I think there&#8217;s an interesting line of thought that is tangental to the Flickr and Nike+ stuff, about how play and online stuff are both leaking into real life &#8212; the things that you would have normally have done anyway (taking snaps, exercising) are somehow infused with an added element of fun or specialness by being part of a wider &#8220;game&#8221;. Perhaps that&#8217;s where the meeting point is going to be?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve sort of felt that the ARG type stuff held more promise than it has actually managed to deliver so far, but I also think that if these activites can be less explicitly about playing a game and more about low-barrier ways of turning everyday proceedings into fun&#8230; then something really interesting can happen. And I wouldn&#8217;t normally say we should wait for hardware to enable things like that to happen, but in this case it seems true (the Nike pedometer thing, cheap digital cameras).</p>
<p>Incidentally, I like the format you&#8217;ve used to present the slides and notes.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James - I could have done, but I didn&#039;t really have time to go into the complexities of GNE. GNE itself wasn&#039;t really a game about sharing photos - sharing photos was just a thing people ended up doing on it, and Flickr grew out of a tool for GNE players to stop using the game to do that, iirc. But it&#039;s a valid point of comparison, nontheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James &#8211; I could have done, but I didn&#8217;t really have time to go into the complexities of GNE. GNE itself wasn&#8217;t really a game about sharing photos &#8211; sharing photos was just a thing people ended up doing on it, and Flickr grew out of a tool for GNE players to stop using the game to do that, iirc. But it&#8217;s a valid point of comparison, nontheless.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised you didn&#039;t note that Flickr itself grew out of a game that involved sharing photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised you didn&#8217;t note that Flickr itself grew out of a game that involved sharing photos.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great stuff, Tom. Wish I&#039;d seen it. 
And that&#039;s actually your arse, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff, Tom. Wish I&#8217;d seen it.<br />
And that&#8217;s actually your arse, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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